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1  COATS, William (I2501)
 
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The Proceedings of the Old Bailey
GEORGE JOHNSTONE MASON, WILLIAM BRADSHAW, CHARLES HOOPER, Deception > forgery, 11th May 1863.

 

730. GEORGE JOHNSTONE MASON(15), WILLIAM BRADSHAW (19), and CHARLES HOOPER(18) , Feloniously forging and uttering an order for payment of 84l. 6s. with intent to defraud.
MASON and BRADSHAW PLEADED GUILTY .
MESSRS. SLEIGH and POLAND conducted the Prosecution.
THOMAS WOOD . I am a cashier at the Bank of London, Threadneedle-street—the "City Building and Investment Company, Limited "keep an account there—on 27th March the cheque (produced) was presented for payment; I cannot say by whom-J cashed it—it is for 84l.6s., dated 23d March, 1863, and purporting to be signed by two of the Directors, and counter-signed by the Secretary—I paid a 50l. note, one 20l., and one 10l., and 4l. 6s. in cash—these notes (produced) are the three I paid—one note is No. 59,323, dated 9th December, 1862.
RICHARD ADYE BAILEY . I am a clerk in the Accountants' Office of the Bank of England—these notes were exchanged for gold on 23d March of this year—the name on the back of the 10l. is "W. Hamilton, 3, St. Peter-street, Islington.
JAMES HIGHAM . I am Secretary to the City Building and Investment Company, 29, Poultry—the prisoner Mason was a clerk in my employ for about six months—we keep an account at the Bank of London, and I produce my cheque-book—the signature to the cheque (produced) is not my handwriting—I do not know whether the signatures of the Directors are genuine; it is a very good imitation if it is not theirs—that cheque came from the Bank to me on the 27th or 28th, I happened to fetch the pass-book on that occasion myself—I looked at the counterfoil of my cheque-book, and immediately said the cheque was a forgery—there was no transaction to which it referred—Mason was in the office—I examined the
 

the cheque-book, and found eight or nine or ten had been taken out—there were altogether twenty cheques taken out of that and other books—Mason would have access to the cheque-books—the cheque is No. 42—I find Nos. 41 and 43 in the cheque-book, but 42 is the identical number missing—I took Mason to the Bank of London, and he was given into custody.
GEORGE DUDLEY FLECK . I am a photographic artist and an actor, living at 32, Chapel-place, Grovsenor-place—I have known Mason for some years, and have acted with him once or twice—in November last I became acquainted with Hooper—I knew him by the name of Stuart—I became acquainted with Bradshaw, I think, in the beginning of this year; I knew him by the name of "Hamilton"—I became acquainted with Hooper by seeing him in a cafe' in Pimlico; Mason and I were there—during the present year the three prisoners and myself have been together once or twice—once at the Trevor-Music Hall, Knightsbridge, and once at the "Windsor Castle "Tavern, near the Victoria Station—we were there on Thursday, 26th or 27th March—Mason and myself were there, and I think the other two came in afterwards—Mason was playing at billiards, and I was scoring—while I was so doing both Bradshaw and Hooper came up to me—one of them spoke; I do not remember which it was, and mentioned that Mason had asked them to present a cheque for payment, at the Union Bank I think it was—I told them they had better not have anything to do with it—something to that effect; nothing else was said then—when Mason had finished playing at billiards they went out, and I followed them, and they went up Shaftesbury crescent—at that time I was walking with one of them, I do not know which, and Mason was walking with the other in advance—the three of them had some conversation about some cheques, and Mason produced some—I heard the conversation, but what it was I do not remember—I won't be certain as to the number of cheques, but they were in blank, with the names signed—Mason said, but I am not certain whether it was then, or at a later time, that he had gone round to the Directors to get their signatures, as they hardly ever knew what the cheques were for; and then there was some conversation about their being filled in, and it was arranged that Hooper should fill it in—lie was asked, I believe, by one of them, and he consented—I do not remember what was said, or who said it—at that time the other cheques were burnt; they were passed round to see whose signature they thought the best—this was in the street, about the corner of Tothill-fields Prison, I should think it about half-past seven; there was a gas-lamp there—two, I think, of the cheques were burned at the gas-lamp—Mason climbed up the lamp—there was one or two left, I won't be certain—after this conversation we all four went to the door of 23, Gloucester-terrace, Vauxhall-road, which is a coffee-house—Hooper and Mason went in, and Bradshaw and I remained outside a few minutes, and Mason came out, and called us—we then went into the coffee-house, and joined Hooper—we all four had some coffee—Mason said Hooper was frightened to fill it in—I was asked to fill it in, and I refused; I am not certain which it was who asked me; it was Hooper or Mason, I am not certain—then Bradshaw sat down to the table, and had some coffee—there was a pen and ink there; so there was when I went in—I did not see Bradshaw writing, because I had my back to him most of the time—I saw a pen in his hand—I am not certain whether after that I saw the cheque or not; I might have seen it, but I do not think I did—Bradshaw said that as he had filled it in, be should not cash it—it had been arranged before that he should cash it—that was said before we went into the coffee-shop
 

—after that we all four left together, and went to Lower Belgrave-street, near the Victoria Hotel—it was between there and the coffee-shop that Bradshaw said he would not present it as he had filled it in—I think Mason said, when we were standing at the corner opposite Victoria-station, that he had written the signatures himself—Hooper then said it was cold and be left, and we three remained behind—before Hooper left it was arranged how the proceeds of the cheque should be divided—I am hardly certain whether it was before he went away, but it must have been, I should think—it was arranged that Mason should have 50l., Hooper 12l., Bradshaw, 20l. and I was to have the rest, the 4l. and the odd shillings—Hooper said he ought to have 15l., and Bradshaw 15l., but Bradshaw would not consent to that, and it was arranged as before—I saw Mason on the following morning—he handed me over 3l. 10s.—he used the expression, "The job is done," or something to that effect.
Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. When this conversation was going on as to who should present this cheque, did you not say that you would present it, but you had not time enough? A. I do not remember saying so—I might have said so, but I do not recollect it—when Bradshaw did not like to do it, I said it was quite safe—I was not trying to get Bradshaw to present it; he asked me if I thought it was safe, and I said yes—I merely repeated other people's words—he said he did not like to do it as he had filled it up—I do not remember that I said I would do it myself—I did not say at that time that I had a cousin in the bank, and therefore it would be awkward for me to do it—I think that was earlier in the day, and not to Bradshaw—I cannot swear whether Hooper left before the arrangement as to the division or not; to the best of my recollection he remained—I am quite certain it was Mason who went up the lamp-post, and not myself—I cannot climb—when he came down I lighted my pipe with one of the cheques, because I had no Vesuvians at the time—I was sixteen years of age last January—I am a photographic artist and a professional actor—I am now living with my parents, in Chapel-street, Hampatead-road—my father is house steward to the Earl of Erne—I mean he has been in the country part of the time—I have been living with my mother at home—I have the apparatus for taking photographs—I am not carrying it on at the present time, I am looking out for a place—at the time I have spoken of I did not carry it on; I have since—I carried it on in Regent-street with a friend—I am living with my mother, but I am carrying it on during the day—my friend is a carver and gilder, and I have been assisting him—I have not been carrying it on on my own account—it was his apparatus, but I have one of my own, which Thought since this affair—I have earned my living by acting for the last eighteen months, at the principal, provincial theatres—at Readings Coventry, and Windsor—at Winchester I was really ill and obliged to leave—the manager did not discharge me, I left of my own accord—I came up to town, and then I was so bad the doctor would not let me go down again—I have been doing nothing since then—I took a place myself for amateurs, and have had one or two performances—I do not look with contempt on amateurs, oh dear, no—the place was Bass's in Vauxhall-road—I do not call myself Mr. Bass—there is a Mr. Bass—I wanted the rooms, and engaged them—the name of the club was, "the British Amateurs Dramatic Club" the premises were taken for the night—the dresses were provided by me—I paid for the theatre—we managed to clear our way—the public appreciated it—they did not pay, they came in by tickets—our last performance was the "Corsican Brothers"—M Dudley Villiers" is my professional name—I
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played the French nobleman—it was not then I got introduced to the prisoners—I knew them before; not all of them—I knew Hooper first—I saw Hooper and Bradshaw together after—I knew Mason before the others; we were almost brought up together—he kindly played for me once or twice, when we had not all our parts filled—sometimes he only paid half what the others did—one of the performances was in March, I think, the 17th or 19th, and the other in February—that was the first time I took this place—we were not associated before in that way; we knew each other merely at companions' and friends—of coarse we had been out together on pleasure, and to amusements—once or twice we went to the theatre together—I never asked him to cash a cheque before—I do not know whether this conversation while playing at billiards was the first of the sort or the first that I heard—I might have heard something more about it—I suppose I must have known perfectly well what was meant at the time—I did not know where Mason had got the cheque from—I might have heard him mention it—I cannot say that I did—I did not advise them to have nothing more to do with it—Mason advised the other two—when I was scoring they came up and I said they had better not have anything more to do with it—I must then have known what it meant—I might have heard from Mason before what sort of a transaction it was—I cannot say I did; it is a long time ago—it may have been mentioned once or twice, but what the words were I cannot recollect—I have heard it mentioned, but I never paid any attention to it—I do not mean that such a little matter as forgery would not attract my attention—I did not pay any particular attention; I treated it as nonsense—I advised these people to have nothing to do with it, because I thought it was getting to a head then—until I saw the cheque I did not believe it—I received 3l. 10s.—after the affair was over, if I wanted 10s. Mason very kindly let me have it—I cannot say how much I received altogether; it might be 5l. 10s. including the 3l. 10s.—I know a person of the name of Price—he was of my company, and played once or twice—Mason acted under the name of "Clifford"—Hooper never acted in my company at all—he was called Stuart—he has been called by that name ever since I have had the pleasure of knowing him—I never asked Price to cash a cheque, but he was asked by Mason—Price lives in Shaftesbury-crescent—I do not know the number, his father is a bookseller—I knew what Mason was about when he asked him, but I was talking to another individual—I think I heard the latter part of the conversation—I did not see the cheque produced—I have heard since that the cheque was shown, but I did not see it at the time—I am not certain that at the time I knew it was a forged cheque—perhaps it was one of those things I paid very little attention to—I will swear I did not tell Price there was nothing to fear, and I did not offer to pay him if he got it cashed—I have heard since—that that story has been circulated by Mason—perhaps it won't do me much damage—I do not remember saying he had nothing to fear—that transaction was before this one.
MR. POLAND. Q. How long before was that conversation with Price? A. It might have been the same day or two days before—I do not know whether it wan in one afternoon—I cannot say I am not certain whether, when I said it was quite safe to present the cheque, I was or was not aware if it was the signatures of the directors or not—I might or might not have been; it was some time ago.
JAMES TALLBOYS . I keep a coffee-house, No. 23, Gloucester-terrace, Vauxhall-road—I remember some young men coming to my house—I cannot tell the day—I cannot say whether there were three or four; it was
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late in the evening, just as I was closing—to the best of my recollection it was on a Thursday in March last—it might have been the Thursday before a conversation took place, when the officer called upon me—I cannot say; there was nothing on the table other than papers and such like, not to the best of my recollection—I believe there were three or four young men came in one day and asked for a pen and ink, and they were supplied with it—they Remained about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes; it might be over or under, I cannot say—I know they did not stop very long, as it was shutting up time—I shut up at 9 o'clock—I do not know who the young men were.
JOSIAH GEORGE WILLETT . I am clerk to Dr. Deane, who has chambers at Doctor's-commons, and also in the Temple—I know Bradshaw and Hooper—in March last they were in the service of Dr. Deane—they were at either of the chambers as required—I know both their hand writings—I believe the handwriting of the body of the cheque produced to be in Bradshaw's handwriting—the endorsement on the 10l. note, "William Hamilton, 3, St. Peter's-street, Islington," appears to be in Hooper's handwriting—the endorsement on the 20l. note, "Charles Hamilton, Messrs. Fryer and Co., New-square, Lincoln's-inn," I believe to be in Bradshaw's handwriting—Hooper had been in Dr. Deane's service about two years.
Cross-examined. Q. You placed considerable confidence in him during that time? A. Yes.
JAMES HIGHAM (recalled). The endorsement on the 50l. note, "William Jones, 2, Took-court, "I believe to be in Mason's handwriting—I have no doubt of it.
GEORGE SCOTT . I am a detective officer in the city police—I took Mason into custody on 2d April, Bradshaw on the 7th, and Hooper on the 8th, from Dr. Deane's chambers in the Temple—he was coming out of the door—I told him I was an officer, and that a statement had been made by a party in custody respecting him, and I must take him into custody for being concerned with Mason and Bradshaw ("Hamilton" I think I then said), on the charge of uttering a cheque for 84l. 6s. on the Bank of London—he said, "Must I go with you now?—I said, "Yes"—on the way to the station he said, "I never did any of the writing"—I cautioned him, and said he had better not make any statement to me, as I should have to mention it before the Lord Mayor, and he then said, "I wish to tell the truth. I was asked to fill in the body of the cheque, and I refused; I certainly was there, and received some of the proceeds"—I then took him to Mr. Mullen's office, on the way to the police-station—he was shown the 10l. note (produced), arid he said, in answer to some questions put by Mr. Beggs, "Yes; that is my writing on that note."
WILLIAM PAYNE I am a director of the "City Building and Investment Company"—my impression is that the signature to the cheque produced is not in my handwriting, but it is a most excellent imitation—I never signed a cheque in blank.
JAMES SMITH . I am a director of this company—I do not believe the signature to this cheque is in my handwriting; it is a very excellent imitation—I never signed a cheque in blank.
JAMES HIGHAM (re-examined). The cheque-book was kept in the office—it was not looked up—I cannot tell when the first cheque was taken—I did not miss any until this cheque came back; I then went through the book—cheques were taken from some other books—I have, as secretary, four accounts—the cheque-books were in the iron chest, to which Mason would
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have access—they were not locked up accept at night—they were all numbered consecutively, and eight were missing—I did not miss any before that time.
THOMAS HOOPER— GUILTY .— Four Years' Penal Servitude.
GEORGE JOHNSTONE MASON—GUILTY.— Six Years' Penal Servitude.
WILLIAM BRADSHAW—GUILTY.— Four Years' Penal Servitude.

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Declared bankrupt 4 Dec 1875 Manchester.
Living 25 Brunswick Street, Oxford Road, Manchester. Decorator and Dressmaker. 
MASON, George Johnstone (I212)
 
3 "Dear Mrs Rainier
I trust you have now settled down in East London, a town of which I am very fond. I remember once going to a meeting at the Town Hall I think it was the local historical society's meeting.
In your last letter to me you mentioned what became of Mrs Brown (Anne Cane), Elizabeth and Anne. The little I have is as follows:
Anne Cane. Born London 16-5-1790. Married John Brown at St Anns Westminister on 26-10-1812. 4 children, Elizabeth, Anne, Christianna and George. The last 2 born 1821 and 27 respectively. Died 19-2-1857 in Grahamstown.
Elizabeth Brown. Presumably born London 18-2-1815. Married Edward Chapman Leonard who died in 1892. 3 children. Died 7-6-1859.
Anne Brown. Presumably born London 17-9-1817. Married Henry Francis Fynn. Died at Swarts Kei when her husband was serving at Tarka's Post. 30-6-1839. I do not think there was issue.
Henry Francis Fynn. (1803 ? - 20-9-1861) was as you may know one of the founders of Natal along with King & Farewell. On the death of his wife Ann, he married Christianna Brown. he died at Fynnlands which I understand is on the Bluff at Durban.
You will see that John Brown had 4 children, this being apart from the 5 children he presented to Charlotte Whitfield between 1822 - 1829.
You mention in your letter about property of J.B. in Germiston (???) I understand that when he died he did have property there but I feel there must have been another JB as the deal between Lt Col Prentice and JB took place on the 28.2.1820 ie long before the 1820 Settlers arrived.
I am awaiting an answer from Mr Morse Jones on a place called Tiger Spring. I do know that there was an article in Looking Back Vol ! Part 2 about this place but unfortunately I do not have a copy.
JB purchased Tiger Spring from a Richard Austen although I do not think he lived there, and the deeds of Transfer are dated 1840 some 5 years after John's death. This place I understand was very near Bathurst, one boundary being on Bathurst Commonage. I have also been told that Tiger Spring was a place on the NE part of Mahoneys location which I believe was in the Coombs Valley near Clay Pit.
P?ts. I wonder whether the two places are one and the same.
In my quest for the birth place of Charlotte Whitfield in London 1790 I am now enquiring into the records of Spanish Town, Jamaica where her brother died in 1824. She presumably went to London in 1827 (along with JB) in consequence of her brothers estate.
Should you require further details on JB I can let you have the note. I was recently given a portion of a genealogical table of the Fynn family which dealt with the Brown family. I know that Christianna Fynn had a son Henry.
I trust you are well and that the weather is kind to you. Here it is beautiful at the moment.
Yours sincerely
Frank Newnes 
BROWN, John (I1155)
 
4 "Uncle Steve" took in young Joseph Waller after his parents were put in a "poor house"

Antonia Waller writes in 1973:
“Steve Hatt bought nothing but the best. His dentures were made on plates of solid gold - doubtless most expensive discomfort. He was a fantastic trencherman and could eat a dozen eggs at a sitting. His voice was so powerful that, when he wished, he could be heard a mile off. He was up before dawn six days out of the seven to go to market and do the buying - and a very shrewd buyer he was, with his wife to guide him on the stocks necessary. The clothes he bought for himself and all the inmates of his household were plentiful and excellent. I suppose he was happy. He had two hobbies, his Rose Garden and reading Cowboy Stories. On Sunday he would spend the whole day abed, reading his favourite literature and smoking Woodbines……..” 
HATT, Stephen (I217)
 
5 'My deaf mute child' in Tompson register

5527/1872 THOMPSON MARY A father's name empty ANNIE J NEWCASTLE

died at 7.00 in the morning - Tompson register 
TOMPSON, Mary Ann (I2453)
 
6 (Burried 6/3/1682/3) Mary (I3526)
 
7 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. PARTRIDGE, Neville (I1326)
 
8 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. MCMASTER, Ruby (I1259)
 
9 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. MCMASTER, Ronnie (I1268)
 
10 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. MCMASTER, Violet (I1270)
 
11 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. MCMASTER, Mertle (I1288)
 
12 1 child MCMASTER, Dolly (I1304)
 
13 1 child - name not known LEE, Benjamin (I2537)
 
14 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. PARTRIDGE, Pam (I1335)
 
15 1 Railway cottage, Modderpoort, Ladybrand MCCLOY, Irene Joan (I17)
 
16 10 Fairstone Drive, Oadby, Leicestershire
living 1982 
CONDIE, Hilary (I2849)
 
17 10th Baronet, succeed to title in 1882
Built a block of flats called "Dungowan Flats" in Manly with Leslie Sprague.

Well-known Pastoralist
Sir William Broun, Bart., died at
his residence, "Colstoun," Manly, this
morning, aged 69.
He was one of the best known
pastorallsts in New South Wales, and was
tho 10th holder of the title. Educated
in Scotland anrl England, ho came to
Australia when he was 18 years of age,
and obtained an appointment In the
Now South Wales Lands Department.
He remained In the Lands Department
for soma years, and then embarked In
pastoral pursuits. He married Miss
Alice Jane Peters, daughter of the late
Mr. James C. Peters, of Sydney, in
1871, and succeeded to the title In 1882.
His son. Sir James Lionel Broun,
succeeds him.
The principal properties owned by
the late baronet In New South Wales
are at Tamworth, Wlnton, and Dai-
blalr, and the chief family residence la
Coonlmbra, Coonamble. 
BROUN, Sir William 10th Baronet (I2322)
 
18 10th Baronet, succeed to title in 1882 BROUN, Sir William 10th Baronet (I2322)
 
19 11th Baronet, of Coonimbia
Known as "the sitter" because he never did anything 
BROUN, Sir James Lionel 11th Bt (I718)
 
20 12 child of 13 OLIVIER, Aletta (I630)
 
21 13 August 2013
Comments: Cousin,
You have a Martha Branigan married to William James Craig on your tree (I was googling William James Craig to see what I could find). She is the next older sister to my 2great grandfather Thomas Brengan. We have a copy of her diary as she and 'Willie' go to Australia. Her father didn't approve of the match so her older sister Margaret helped she and 'Willie' Craig get to the 2nd Presbyterian Church in Ballymoney and elope off to Australia. (She was 16 and he considerably older - and well traveled- he had been to the gold fields in California). He gave up his family estate to elope with her which even today is a large farm by northern Ireland standards (365 acres). Limepark is now a bed and breakfast and a artists retreat (beautiful place - we saw it in 2008 and have some pictures too).

I'm writing this upstairs to not disturb my wife's sleep - so I don't have access to my files, however, if you are interested in a copy of the diary and family tree info let me know.

Dave Brengan
Port Hadlock, Washington



Dave Brengan
dlb27@yahoo.com 
BRANIGAN, Martha (I5050)
 
22 135 New Rd, South Darenth, Dartford, Kent O’BRIEN (I2827)
 
23 1785 Nov 9th was baptised David McMaster lawful son to John McMaster at Newton in the parish of Terregles by Mr Kennedy Min’r.

They left Scotland and were in London from at least 1810 - 1826 where he worked as a carpenter at 21 King Street, Seven Dials. Frances Isabella McMaster died in c1823 and he remarried Amelia SANDFORD at St.Pancras Old Church in 1825. They then became settlers to the Cape Colony, South Africa where he travelled with his 7 children; John, James, David (born London 1810), Joseph, Jane, Frances, Susan. 
MCMASTER, David (I4117)
 
24 18 months old in Feb 1922 LOPEZ DONALD, Victor Roy Luis (I1603)
 
25 18 Sycamore Dr, Hamilton, Lancashire
living 1982 
CONDIE, Doreen (I2847)
 
26 1820 Settler
Fondly known as" Chubby", moved with the family to Bulawayo from Ficksburg in the Orange Free State by Ox wagon in 1894 the trip took 6 months. During the 1896 rebellion the Bain sisters entertained people in the laarger by playing the piano and singing. She attended the Convent school in Bulawayo in 1904, she married William Henry Talbot, an Australian who served with the Imperial Light Horse during the South African war. He died in a flu epidemic in 1918. Chubby stayed in Bulawayo until 1961, when she went to live with her son in law and daughter, Ald. and Mrs Albert E Davies in Que Que.
She was a member of the Rhodesian Pioneers' and Early Settlers' Society and her stories of the early years in Rhodesia were recorded in Vol III of the society's journal Pioneer. 
BAIN, Florence Marion (I4198)
 
27 1820 Settlers to S.Africa with Albony Settlers on board the 'Sentor'
Richard was 34 and his wife Ann 33 at that time. 
HULLEY, Richard (I4285)
 
28 1851 census
Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace
John BOOTY Head M 35 M Painter Hopton-SUF
Sarah BOOTY Wife M 34 F --- Thetford-NFK
George BOOTY Son - 11 M Scholar Thetford-NFK
Sarah BOOTY Daur - 9 F Scholar Ixworth-SUF
Address: Castle Row, Thetford
Census Place: Thetford St Cuthbert Thetford, Norfolk 
BOOTY, John (I497)
 
29 1851 census
Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace
William TRAIL Head M 35 M Clerk To Builder ----SCT
Branch TRAIL Wife M 29 F --- Thetford-NFK
Branch Mary TRAIL Daur - 4 F Scholar Thetford-NFK
Marion TRAIL Daur - 3 F Scholar Thetford-NFK
John William TRAIL Son - 2 M Scholar Thetford-NFK
Elizabeth TRAIL Daur - 1 F --- Thetford-NFK
Mary Ann SKIPPINS Serv - 13 F Nurse Maid Thetford-NFK
Address: Castle Row, Thetford
Census Place: Thetford St Cuthbert Thetford, Norfolk
PRO Reference: HO/107/1832 Folio: 387 Page: 23 FHL Film: 0207487


1861 census
William Trail Head 45 Carpenter born Scotland
Branch Trail Wife 30 born Thetford
Branch May Trail Daughter 14 born Thetford
Marion Trail Daughter 13 Dressmaker born Scotland
John William Trail Son 11 born Thetford
Elizabeth Trail Daughter 8 born Thetford
Alice Trail Daughter 6 born Thetford
Alexander G Trail Son 4 born Thetford
James Andrew 2 Son born Thetford

I also found another child on
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1862
TRAIL Sarah Ann Thetford 4b 406
---------------------------------------Ruth Kennaway 08/02/2004 
TRAIL, William (I2570)
 
30 1881 census
John TOMPSON Household
Male
Other Information:
Birth Year <1820>
Birthplace Thetford, Norfolk, England
Age 61
Occupation Timber Measurer (H D S)
Marital Status M
Head of Household John TOMPSON
Relation Head
Disability
Source Information:
Dwelling Horns Lane Private House
Census Place Norwich St Julian, Norfolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341468
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1943 / 89
Page Number 11 
TOMPSON, John (I2336)
 
31 1881 census
MARRION TRAILL 
  Female    
Event(s):
 Birth:  19 APR 1847   Dryfesdale, Dumfries, Scotland
  Christening:  
 Parents:
  Father:  WILLIAM TRAILL  Family
  Mother:  BRANCH THOMSON    
Messages:
 Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type: 
 C118204  1820 - 1855  1067958   Film  6902069   Film 
  Sheet:  
TRAIL, Marion Bessie (I2572)
 
32 1881 census
George MC LEOD Household
    Male  
  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1849> 
    Birthplace Ontario, Canada 
    Age 32 
    Occupation Manufacturer Of Rubber Stamps 
    Marital Status M  
    Head of Household George MC LEOD
    Relation Head 
    Disability  
  Source Information:
    Dwelling 7 St James Rd
    Census Place Bermondsey, Surrey, England 
    Family History Library Film 1341129
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 0568 / 93
    Page Number 22
Elizabeth MC LEOD Household
    Female  
  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1853> 
    Birthplace Thetford, Norfolk, England 
    Age 28 
    Occupation  
    Marital Status M  
    Head of Household George MC LEOD
    Relation Wife 
    Disability  
Source Information:
    Dwelling 7 St James Rd
    Census Place Bermondsey, Surrey, England 
    Family History Library Film 1341129
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 0568 / 93
    Page Number 22
 
Alexander MC LEOD
    Male  
 
Other Information:
    Birth Year <1876> 
    Birthplace Peckham, Surrey, England 
    Age 5 
    Occupation  
    Marital Status  
    Head of Household George MC LEOD
    Relation Son 
    Disability  
 
  Source Information:
    Dwelling 7 St James Rd
    Census Place Bermondsey, Surrey, England 
    Family History Library Film 1341129
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 0568 / 93
    Page Number 22
 
Elizabeth MC LEOD
    Female  
 
  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1877> 
    Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire, England 
    Age 4 
    Occupation  
    Marital Status  
    Head of Household George MC LEOD
    Relation Daur 
    Disability  
 
Source Information:
    Dwelling 7 St James Rd
    Census Place Bermondsey, Surrey, England 
    Family History Library Film 1341129
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 0568 / 93
    Page Number 22
 
Harry TRAIL Household
    Male  
  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1867> 
    Birthplace Thetford, Norfolk, England 
    Age 14 
    Occupation Lithographic Artist Student 
    Marital Status  
    Head of Household George MC LEOD
    Relation Brother In Law 
    Disability  
  Source Information:
    Dwelling 7 St James Rd
    Census Place Bermondsey, Surrey, England 
    Family History Library Film 1341129
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 0568 / 93
    Page Number 22 
MC LEOD, George (I2582)
 
33 1881 census Harry age 14 staying with sister Elizabeth Mcleod at 7 St James Rd Bermondsey Surrey, occupation: lithographic Artist student
Master of Camberwell Workhouse in 1901 census 
TRAIL, Harry (I2611)
 
34 1891 Census: 67 Salmons Lane, Limehouse. William Goodspeed listed as Head of family STEVENS, Sarah Ann (I38)
 
35 1891 Census: 67 Salmons Lane, Limehouse. William Goodspeed listed as Head of family WALLER, Edward Hawker (I273)
 
36 1891 Census: 67 Salmons Lane, Limehouse. William Goodspeed listed as Head of family WALLER, Edith Sarah (I312)
 
37 1891 Census: 67 Salmons Lane, Limehouse. William Goodspeed listed as Head of family WALLER, Frederick Clarence (I530)
 
38 1891 Census: 67 Salmons Lane, Limehouse. William Goodspeed listed as Head of family GOODSPEED, William (I1619)
 
39 1896 Pioneer to Rhodesia FERREIRA, Annie Petronella (I694)
 
40 1901 census
Wm Thompson 33 Norfolk Thetford Essex Wendens Ambo Ent Railway Platelayer 
TOMPSON, William (I2491)
 
41 1903 census; 114 Hunter St, Sydney; occupation, agent
of Wentworth, Sydney, Australia; predeceased husband

Letter to son Ernie
Kotobuke, The Retreat,?Woollahra, Sydney NSW
Friday 12th (some time before July 1908)

My darling Son
I promised I would give you the?family tree so here goes as far as I?know. My father Late JJ Hooper was the
eldest son of a Dr who wrote
a medical book that at one time no one
could do without - he was a widower. Son & Daughter.
My step brother John fell in the Indian
Mutiny. He was in the 6th Dragoon Guards.
My step sister Emma Hooper married a
Dr of Divinity named Carl Kruger
a Russian gentleman. Their 3 Daughters
are married. One to an Indian Nabob.
My mothers maiden name was Hordern
She was an orphan though highly educated
in the Convent in France for 13 years.
There were 16 children. My mother died
of Consumption aged 45. The eldest
Brother James took his life in
New Zealand through a bad woman.
My second brother Walter(?) was killed & eaten
by the natives at Soloman
Islands on his 16th birthday and my younger
brother Charles was killed in
NZ through the result of a fall.
My only living brother Frank is in
Townsville North Queensland there
are 4 living sisters Anni (Annis?) who is married
to the (son of then )[pencilled in at an a««««g/e].Reslut(?) Earl of Limirick?and may some day be an Earl he
is honourable the HN Pery (moro/noro/horo?) - Aunt
Kobriak (?) is Mrs Darcy(?) NZ Her Grand
son are of a veiy old English
family. Dad's Father was a sea
Capt. & brought a ship out here
do not know the name. Nana
married him at Portsmouth &
came out here when Aunt Mini(?) Grace
was 2 years old. Grandpa Peters was half
Spanish. His wife pure English.
Aunt Mini Grimes married George
Underwood Grimes Grandson of the
Late Cap. G. Underwood & was left
very rich. Aunt Mini fell off
South Head [Sydney]& was killed. Her share
of money £50,000 - fell to George
& Percy Grimes & Percy
went through best part of it.
An Uncle of mine named Whickchurch?was 3 times Lord Mayor of London.
Many of my cousins are Dr. There?is a family name Dr Dempsey.
Cousins but I never found them a?thought I had. several cousins in?Deniliquin N.S.W. My first?Cousin William Hooper died 3?years ago, all his sons are in?Banks there & here. That is all?I can remember.
Today Lill & Blanch
have gone on a farm with the 2
children for a fortnight - so Dad &
I are alone. This is the 12th.
I used to get your letters
on 5 or 6th why dear man you
altered the date . Your Dad is
so worried with that Keith(?)
he will not work & last week was sitting
in the park at 12 at night when an
old man charged him with
robbery & thanks to me he got
out of it. I had to bale him
out & poor Dad has to pay
£5-3 for the solicitor
just for the families sake
& keep it out of the
paper. I waste days walking
all over the place & the fellow would
not say thank you - Aunt
Kobriak (Gabrial?) is seriously ill & Katie(?)
had to go home. Aunt
F is splended it was a
blessing poor Mick(?) Sim(?) Died.
You will have received all?my letters I suppose dear Son.
You are settled at Pretoria?now I hope. Not in tents. I long to?hear dear. Dad is going to write to?you on Sunday. He says he?has no news that I tell?you all. Now dear I will
say good night - I hope all I?have said will please you.
God bless you darling.
From your loving?Mother
Kisses mv Son
XXXXX
XXXXXX

(“Mother" was Emily Augusta Peters nee Hooper,?married to James Chambers Frederick Peters
their son, Ernest Francis James Peters, died age 41 near Johannesburg?South Africa in 1920) 
HOOPER, Emily Augusta (I731)
 
42 1a 862 Family F7
 
43 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. MCMASTER, Joey (I1257)
 
44 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. PARTRIDGE, Derek (I1331)
 
45 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. CONDIE, Irene (I2854)
 
46 22 Ascot Road WALLER, Ronald Henry (I271)
 
47 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. ROUAULT, Gustave (I2828)
 
48 2nd wife ZONDAGH, Maria Elisabeth (I646)
 
49 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. PARTRIDGE, Valarie (I1329)
 
50 3 Children - names not known LEE, Edgar (I2523)
 

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